Temperature issues
Despite rather low thermal dissipation (approx. 7.5 W), the cards are getting quite hot in installations. This page summarizes the Fine Delay heating problems and proposes solutions to mitigate them:
- fit a heatsink
- increase air flow (fan speed) to improve heat transfer
- replace LVPECL delay lines with low-power LVDS equivalents
Detailed temperature measurements on different platforms
Note:* All temperatures in degrees Celsius. All thermal tests made with PCB version EDA-02267-V5-0.
Test environment
- VME: Wiener and Elma crates, with up to 7 SVECs (14 Fine Delays)
installed in subsequent slots. Whenever possible, different
combinations
of VME slots and fan speeds were used. All crates used a MEN A20
controller. Ambient temp 26-28.
- PCI Express: Kontron industrial PC, with 5 SPECs and 5 Fine Delays. Ambient temp 19-20.
- Temperatures were logged over time to make sure they have settled up
before taking measurements. The first stable sample (with less than 1
degree temperature change over 1 minute) was used for the statistics.
- Unused slots were covered to ensure maximum airflow through the FMCs.
Data (cards without heatsinks):
Wiener 21-slot VME64x crate, slots 4-10:*
Fans | Slot/FMC | 4/1 | 4/2 | 5/1 | 5/2 | 6/1 | 6/2 | 7/1 | 7/2 | 8/1 | 8/2 | 9/1 | 9/2 | 10/1 | 10/2 |
Min (1200 rpm) | Temp | 65.69 | 71.38 | 56.88 | 66.25 | 50.69 | 63.88 | 51.19 | 63.62 | 58.62 | 73.25 | 61.44 | 71.00 | 50.12 | 59.62 |
Max (3600 rpm) | 52.75 | 57.06 | 45.31 | 51.56 | 39.31 | 48.31 | 40.38 | 48.31 | 47.38 | 58.81 | 49.94 | 55.00 | 40.75 | 46.12 |
Wiener 21-slot VME64x crate, slots 9-15:*
| Fans | Slot/FMC | 9/1 | 9/2 | 10/1 | 10/2 | 11/1 | 11/2 | 12/1
| 12/2 | 13/1 | 13/2 | 14/1 | 14/2 | 15/1 | 15/2 |
| Min (1200 rpm) | Temp | 62.00 | 71.12 | 60.19 | 74.31 | 61.25 |
73.75 | 51.94 | 65.12 | 48.75 | 60.88 | 51.31 | 62.75 | 52.12 | 64.06
|
| Max (3600 rpm) | | 49.44 | 55.00 | 48.81 | 56.50 | 49.88 | 55.00 |
41.44 | 50.88 | 40.69 | 50.12 | 41.31 | 48.12 | 42.75 | 49.00 |
Elma 18-slot VME64x crate, default fan configuration:*
Slots 4-10:
Slot/FMC | 4/1 | 4/2 | 5/1 | 5/2 | 6/1 | 6/2 | 7/1 | 7/2 | 8/1 | 8/2 | 9/1 | 9/2 | 10/1 | 10/2 |
Temp | 57.44 | 62.56 | 49.75 | 59.06 | 44.50 | 53.88 | 46.00 | 56.38 | 62.00 | 70.94 | 66.44 | 73.69 | 46.69 | 56.31 |
Slots 9-15:
Slot/FMC | 9/1 | 9/2 | 10/1 | 10/2 | 11/1 | 11/2 | 12/1 | 12/2 | 13/1 | 13/2 | 14/1 | 14/2 | 15/2 |
Temp | 66.00 | 72.06 | 66.88 | 73.56 | 57.38 | 65.44 | 46.94 | 59.88 | 45.31 | 56.31 | 50.56 | 60.06 | 59.31 |
Elma 6-slot VME64x crate, default fan configuration:*
Fans | Slot/FMC | 2/1 | 2/2 | 3/1 | 3/2 | 4/1 | 4/2 | 5/1 | 5/2 | 6/1 | 6/2 |
Auto | Temp | 77.69 | 72.38 | 77.31 | 69.75 | 66.88 | 60.12 | 82.06 | 74.31 | 90.00 | 83.19 |
Max (3600 rpm) | 67.38 | 62.81 | 66.50 | 62.62 | 58.25 | 52.06 | 70.56 | 64.06 | 80.94 | 73.44 |
Note: slot 6 has a much higher temperature than the other slots. One may need to recommend to not use slot 6.
Elma 2-slot VME64x crate*
Fans | Slot/FMC | 2/1 | 2/2 |
Auto | Temp | 69.50 | 73.31 |
Max (3600 rpm) | 63.50 | 67.50 |
Kontron KISS 6U industrial PC*
Slot | 1 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 8 |
Temp | 89.25 | 92.56 | 98.75 | 88.56 | 79.50 |
Data (with heatsinks)
Wiener 21-slot VME64x crate, slots 4-9:*
Fans | Slot/FMC | 4/1 | 4/2 | 5/1 | 5/2 | 6/1 | 6/2 | 7/1 | 7/2 | 8/1 | 8/2 | 9/1 | 9/2 |
Min (1200 rpm) | Temp | 50.56 | 64.00 | 48.94 | 63.81 | 43.69 | 57.81 | 48.50 | 61.50 | 51.88 | 64.75 | 49.19 | 59.62 |
Max (3600 rpm) | 41.19 | 52.38 | 39.25 | 49.69 | 36.12 | 45.00 | 39.69 | 48.81 | 42.56 | 52.50 | 47.42 | 46.62 |
Wiener 21-slot VME64x crate, slots 10-15:*
Fans | Slot/FMC | 10/1 | 10/2 | 11/1 | 11/2 | 12/1 | 12/2 | 13/1 | 13/2 | 14/1 | 14/2 | 15/1 | 15/2 |
Min (1200 rpm) | Temp | 52.38 | 65.31 | 47.38 | 63.69 | 45.94 | 61.50 | 43.38 | 57.62 | 51.25 | 65.00 | 49.75 | 59.56 |
Max (3600 rpm) | 43.06 | 53.88 | 39.94 | 50.56 | 38.06 | 47.44 | 35.62 | 43.81 | 40.31 | 50.12 | 41.31 | 45.62 |
Elma 18-slot VME64x crate:*
Slots 4-9:
| Fans | Slot/FMC | 4/1 | 4/2 | 5/1 | 5/2 | 6/1 | 6/2 | 7/1 |
7/2 | 8/1 | 8/2 | 9/1 | 9/2 |
| Auto | Temp | 47.81 | 62.56 | 39.88 | 53.50 | 40.50 | 50.31 |
42.06 | 55.12 | 52.38 | 67.50 | 47.06 | 54.50 |
| Max (3600 rpm) | | 43.94 | 55.94 | 36.88 | 47.00 | 36.56 | 43.56 |
38.38 | 49.19 | 48.69 | 59.25 | 41.75 | 47.69 |
Slots 10-15:
| Fans | Slot/FMC | 10/1 | 10/2 | 11/1 | 11/2 | 12/1 | 12/2 |
13/1 | 13/2 | 14/1 | 14/2 | 15/1 | 15/2 |
| Auto | Temp | 56.56 | 64.75 | 50.81 | 67.62 | 41.69 | 57.38 |
42.38 | 54.00 | 47.88 | 60.19 | 46.38 | 56.25 |
| Max (3600 rpm) | | 51.31 | 56.06 | 45.81 | 58.12 | 37.44 | 48.00 |
37.94 | 45.94 | 42.62 | 52.12 | 40.75 | 48.50 |
Elma 6-slot VME64x crate*
| Fans | Slot/FMC | 2/1 | 2/2 | 3/1 | 3/2 | 4/1 | 4/2 | 5/1 |
5/2 | 6/1 | 6/2 |
| Auto | Temp | 69.06 | 65.12 | 70.69 | 61.75 | 62.25 | 53.44 |
75.25 | 65.62 | 81.88 | 70.50 |
| Max (3600 rpm) | | 62.12 | 58.75 | 62.06 | 55.12 | 53.06 | 47.12 |
66.12 | 58.56 | 74.62 | 63.69 |
Elma 2-slot VME64x crate*
| Fans | Slot/FMC | 2/1 | 2/2 |
| Auto | Temp | 61.06 | 64.62 |
| Max (3600 rpm) | | 56.38 | 60.62 |
Kontron KISS 6U industrial PC*
| Slot | 1 | 2 | 3 | 7 | 8 |
| Temp | 88.19 | 81.94 | 89.12 | 83.0 | 71.75 |
Summary
Crate | Airflow | Heatsink | Min | Max | Span | Mean | Median |
Wiener (slots 4-10) | Min (1200 rpm) | no | 50.12 | 73.25 | 23.13 | 61.69 | 62.53 |
Wiener (slots 4-10) | Min (3600 rpm) | no | 39.31 | 58.81 | 19.50 | 48.64 | 48.31 |
Wiener (slots 9-15) | Min (1200 rpm) | no | 48.75 | 74.31 | 25.56 | 61.40 | 61.62 |
Wiener (slots 9-15) | Min (3600 rpm) | no | 40.69 | 56.50 | 15.81 | 48.50 | 49.22 |
Elma 6U (slots 4-10) | Auto | no | 44.50 | 73.69 | 29.19 | 57.55 | 56.91 |
Elma 6U (slots 9-15) | Auto | no | 45.31 | 73.56 | 28.25 | 59.98 | 59.88 |
Elma 3U (slots 2-6) | Auto | no | 60.12 | 90.00 | 29.88 | 75.37 | 75.81 |
Elma 3U (slots 2-6) | Max (3600 rpm) | no | 52.06 | 80.94 | 28.88 | 65.86 | 65.28 |
Elma 3U (slots 2-5) | Auto | no | 60.12 | 82.06 | 21.94 | 72.56 | 73.34 |
Elma 3U (slots 2-5) | Max (3600 rpm) | no | 52.06 | 70.56 | 18.50 | 63.03 | 63.44 |
Elma 1U | Auto | no | 69.50 | 73.31 | 3.81 | 71.41 | 71.41 |
Elma 1U | Max (3600 rpm) | no | 63.50 | 67.50 | 4.00 | 65.50 | 65.50 |
Kontron | what airflow? | no | 79.50 | 98.75 | 19.25 | 89.72 | 89.25 |
Wiener (slots 4-9) | Min (1200 rpm) | yes | 43.69 | 64.75 | 21.06 | 55.35 | 54.84 |
Wiener (slots 4-9) | Max (3600 rpm) | yes | 36.12 | 52.50 | 16.38 | 45.10 | 45.81 |
Wiener (slots 10-14) | Min (1200 rpm) | yes | 43.38 | 65.31 | 21.93 | 55.23 | 55.00 |
Wiener (slots 10-14) | Max (3600 rpm) | yes | 35.62 | 53.88 | 18.26 | 44.14 | 43.44 |
Elma 6U (slots 4-9) | Auto | yes | 39.88 | 67.50 | 27.62 | 51.10 | 51.34 |
Elma 6U (slots 4-9) | Max (3600 rpm) | yes | 36.56 | 59.25 | 22.69 | 45.74 | 45.47 |
Elma 6U (slots 10-14) | Auto | yes | 41.69 | 67.62 | 25.93 | 53.82 | 55.12 |
Elma 6U (slots 10-14) | Max (3600 rpm) | yes | 37.44 | 58.12 | 20.68 | 47.05 | 46.97 |
Elma 3U (slots 2-6) | Auto | yes | 53.44 | 81.88 | 28.44 | 67.56 | 67.34 |
Elma 3U (slots 2-6) | Auto | yes | 47.12 | 74.62 | 27.50 | 60.12 | 60.41 |
Elma 1U | Auto | yes | 61.06 | 64.62 | 3.56 | 62.84 | 62.84 |
Elma 1U | Auto | yes | 56.38 | 60.62 | 4.24 | 58.50 | 58.50 |
Kontron | what airflow? | no | 71.75 | 89.12 | 17.37 | 82.80 | 83.00 |
Note: the ambient temperature on the Kontron measurement is 20 degrees. It is 28 degrees on the other measurements.
Replacing the LVPECL delay lines with LVDS counterparts
We tried replacing the SY89295 chips (and their LVPECL terminations)
with an LVDS version: ICS854S296I-33. Temperature test
(identical conditions) performed on a SVEC showed 5 degrees less on the
modified card:
- new delay line (LVDS) 51.31 Celsius
- old delay line (PECL) 56.38 Celsius
Note that the EDA-02267-V6-0 PCB is not foreseen for the LVPECL termination resistors for the new delay line chip. In case we decide to use the new chip, for production purposes a new revision of the PCB should be made. Also, the new LVDS delay line is much harder to obtain than the PECL version.
Conclusions
Short version:
- Forced airflow is absolutely necessary. Set the fans to the maximum level in all VME installations.
- Kontron PCs must be equipped with additional fan units, to be designed.
- Heatsink is not effective if the air flow is too slow. In such case, the heat is exchanged through radiation with the cards in immediate neighbourhood, causing collective heating of all mezzanines/carriers (the ones in the middle are the worst).
- Using an LVDS delay line chip gives little thermal advantage.
- Slot 6 in 3U Elma crates should be avoided.
More notes:
- Cards in the middle slots (8-10) are the worst (25 degC difference over slots 7 and 12). This suggests uneven air flow in the crate.
- FMC1 is approximately 8-10 degrees cooler than FMC2 in 3U and 1U crates (opposite on Wiener/big Elma). FMC1 is closer to the fans and obstructs air flow to FMC2.
- Large temperature spans in VME crates suggest uneven air flow between different slots.
- Keeping the fans speed at a maximum (Wiener) results with reasonable cooling (worst temperature: 59).
- On Elma 6U and Kontron PC platforms, the temperatures are unacceptable and exceed the components rating (-40 ... +85).
- Not using slot 6 on Elma 6U, only on Kontron PC platforms, the
temperatures are unacceptable and exceed the components rating (-40
... +85).
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15 August 2014